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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2006/06/14/responsible-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-24979</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article Responsible Customers, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article Responsible Customers, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2006/06/14/responsible-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey PatrickJ,

Thank you! No, we definitely don&#039;t mind you writing about our blog - we appreciate it! I&#039;ve added your blog to our Blogroll list. We&#039;re pretty new at blogging, so it&#039;s nice to see that people are reading us. Good luck with yours - I&#039;m enjoying it already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey PatrickJ,</p>
<p>Thank you! No, we definitely don&#8217;t mind you writing about our blog &#8211; we appreciate it! I&#8217;ve added your blog to our Blogroll list. We&#8217;re pretty new at blogging, so it&#8217;s nice to see that people are reading us. Good luck with yours &#8211; I&#8217;m enjoying it already.</p>
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		<title>By: PatrickJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2006/06/14/responsible-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrickJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey - it&#039;s great to a blog site from you guys. I like the idea, the content, and especially the device menagerie photo. I hope you do not object (if so, will remove it) - but I have done a short piece on my blog recommending this site, and including the &#039;device menagerie&#039; photo. Hope you will not mind, and maybe you&#039;ll check out my fledgling blog site a little.
Cheers ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; it&#8217;s great to a blog site from you guys. I like the idea, the content, and especially the device menagerie photo. I hope you do not object (if so, will remove it) &#8211; but I have done a short piece on my blog recommending this site, and including the &#8216;device menagerie&#8217; photo. Hope you will not mind, and maybe you&#8217;ll check out my fledgling blog site a little.<br />
Cheers &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Some people are intentionally angry and are never satisfied.&lt;/em&gt; Bingo. I think you nailed it with that one.

And given that, I&#039;d say it&#039;s in the company/employee&#039;s best interest to, politely, inform said person that they are no longer your customer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Some people are intentionally angry and are never satisfied.</em> Bingo. I think you nailed it with that one.</p>
<p>And given that, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s in the company/employee&#8217;s best interest to, politely, inform said person that they are no longer your customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree that in a way, giving customers what they want is essentially &#039;paying the problem away&#039;.

 There&#039;s a really gray line between, &quot;making the customer happy&quot; and &quot;we can&#039;t afford to make our customers angry.&quot; For example, I&#039;m planning a Walt Disney World vacation and it&#039;s common knowledge that there are discounts available for the Disney Resorts that aren&#039;t made available unless you ask for them. That&#039;s &#039;paying the problem away&#039;. That&#039;s the same as Starbucks offering a Small size if you ask for it but not writing it on the board. It makes the customer happy if they ask, but it doesn&#039;t really benefit the customer who doesn&#039;t ask for it. It doesn&#039;t necessarily hurt the non-asking customer either. 


I&#039;ve never worked in retail sales, but my roommate does and my mother is a retail pharmacist. Both of them face an endless stream of irate customers, people who aren&#039;t just mad but who seem to be using their anger as a tool to get what they want out of a transaction. [Here at Ilium, very luckily, we seem to get a low number of angry people who stay angry.]

I&#039;ve read &#039;tips for dealing with customer service&#039; on the internet, that boil down to, &quot;threaten the rep with your lack of purchase.&quot; &quot;Oh, you won&#039;t do what I want? I&#039;m going somewhere else.&quot; &quot;Company X does Y, why don&#039;t you do Y too?&quot; The worst is probably, &quot;if you don&#039;t do what I say, I&#039;ll make my credit card company charge back my purchase.&quot; Chargebacks cost the seller money, and often the problem can be fixed with a simple refund. The chargeback is used as leverage. 

This creates a really bad precedent. My roommate has endless stories of people who come in to OfficeMAX and end up talking to the supervisor, or submitting a &#039;report&#039; to corporate HQ about something that happened. The customer is usually not right 99.99999999% of the time when it comes to company policies like refunds, rain checks, sales combinations (discount + employee discount + multiple coupons) but no sales or service rep is allowed to say, &quot;Sir, you are a big walking piece of BS, and it would be beneficial to both of us if you simply changed your standards or left.&quot; The precedent is, &quot;you can say whatever you want to me, and at the least I won&#039;t yell back or tell you off, and at the most I&#039;ll do what you want.&quot; 

Customers are where your money comes from as a company, but should sales reps allow customers to walk all over them just to avoid the publicity of, &quot;I was at [store] and the sales person told me to come back after calming down! They&#039;re terrible! Never go there!&quot; 

I wonder if paying a customer&#039;s problem away will really stifle a bad report. Some people are intentionally angry and are never satisfied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that in a way, giving customers what they want is essentially &#8216;paying the problem away&#8217;.</p>
<p> There&#8217;s a really gray line between, &#8220;making the customer happy&#8221; and &#8220;we can&#8217;t afford to make our customers angry.&#8221; For example, I&#8217;m planning a Walt Disney World vacation and it&#8217;s common knowledge that there are discounts available for the Disney Resorts that aren&#8217;t made available unless you ask for them. That&#8217;s &#8216;paying the problem away&#8217;. That&#8217;s the same as Starbucks offering a Small size if you ask for it but not writing it on the board. It makes the customer happy if they ask, but it doesn&#8217;t really benefit the customer who doesn&#8217;t ask for it. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily hurt the non-asking customer either. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never worked in retail sales, but my roommate does and my mother is a retail pharmacist. Both of them face an endless stream of irate customers, people who aren&#8217;t just mad but who seem to be using their anger as a tool to get what they want out of a transaction. [Here at Ilium, very luckily, we seem to get a low number of angry people who stay angry.]</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read &#8216;tips for dealing with customer service&#8217; on the internet, that boil down to, &#8220;threaten the rep with your lack of purchase.&#8221; &#8220;Oh, you won&#8217;t do what I want? I&#8217;m going somewhere else.&#8221; &#8220;Company X does Y, why don&#8217;t you do Y too?&#8221; The worst is probably, &#8220;if you don&#8217;t do what I say, I&#8217;ll make my credit card company charge back my purchase.&#8221; Chargebacks cost the seller money, and often the problem can be fixed with a simple refund. The chargeback is used as leverage. </p>
<p>This creates a really bad precedent. My roommate has endless stories of people who come in to OfficeMAX and end up talking to the supervisor, or submitting a &#8216;report&#8217; to corporate HQ about something that happened. The customer is usually not right 99.99999999% of the time when it comes to company policies like refunds, rain checks, sales combinations (discount + employee discount + multiple coupons) but no sales or service rep is allowed to say, &#8220;Sir, you are a big walking piece of BS, and it would be beneficial to both of us if you simply changed your standards or left.&#8221; The precedent is, &#8220;you can say whatever you want to me, and at the least I won&#8217;t yell back or tell you off, and at the most I&#8217;ll do what you want.&#8221; </p>
<p>Customers are where your money comes from as a company, but should sales reps allow customers to walk all over them just to avoid the publicity of, &#8220;I was at [store] and the sales person told me to come back after calming down! They&#8217;re terrible! Never go there!&#8221; </p>
<p>I wonder if paying a customer&#8217;s problem away will really stifle a bad report. Some people are intentionally angry and are never satisfied.</p>
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