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	<title>Comments on: Copy and Paste &#8211; Do You Need It?</title>
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		<title>By: LexLuther</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2008/08/05/copy-and-paste-do-you-need-it/#comment-31109</link>
		<dc:creator>LexLuther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well,  I have to say that C&amp;P are pretty fundemental in my mind.  Even this morning I was working on a list on my iPod Touch notes app and I wanted to rearrange the bullet points.  Alas, if I had C&amp;P I would be able to just do it in a flash 9especially if it were drag and drop!).  On my Blackberry I often use the copy and paste functions to move large blocks of text.  So for me it is a must.  I love my Blackberry 8310 (can&#039;t wait to get eWallet on it) and my iTouch (can&#039;t wait to sync!) but I miss much about my years in the Palm camp (ewallet being one thing I mess) and C&amp;P is certainly one.

Thanks Ilium, ewallet was the number one reason for me NOT to dump Palm for a Touch.  Once I saw you had brought it over I grabbed a Touch right away and want to get an iPhone soon too!  Keep up the development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  I have to say that C&amp;P are pretty fundemental in my mind.  Even this morning I was working on a list on my iPod Touch notes app and I wanted to rearrange the bullet points.  Alas, if I had C&amp;P I would be able to just do it in a flash 9especially if it were drag and drop!).  On my Blackberry I often use the copy and paste functions to move large blocks of text.  So for me it is a must.  I love my Blackberry 8310 (can&#8217;t wait to get eWallet on it) and my iTouch (can&#8217;t wait to sync!) but I miss much about my years in the Palm camp (ewallet being one thing I mess) and C&amp;P is certainly one.</p>
<p>Thanks Ilium, ewallet was the number one reason for me NOT to dump Palm for a Touch.  Once I saw you had brought it over I grabbed a Touch right away and want to get an iPhone soon too!  Keep up the development.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2008/08/05/copy-and-paste-do-you-need-it/#comment-30653</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Marc

C&amp;P was one of those things I found out the iPhone did not do, and over the last 9 months or so of usage, one that don&#039;t miss very much. 

However, I must say I am somewhat confused.  If I am able to click on email containing a URL from within Email, and get the page launched within Safari, would eWallet not be able to do the same? 

Also, would it not be possible to create a &#039;Keychain&#039; entry from within eWallet for the id/password. That way when the website is launched Safari would have that info. Maybe I am over simplyfying things.. and I am sure you have much more creative guys on the Dev team, but, just a thought.

Having been a long loyal user of eWallet since my Palm Pilot days, I cannot wait to have my over 400 entries sync up and usuable on the iPhone. 

All around Great jobs guys!!

One thing that comes to mind,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc</p>
<p>C&amp;P was one of those things I found out the iPhone did not do, and over the last 9 months or so of usage, one that don&#8217;t miss very much. </p>
<p>However, I must say I am somewhat confused.  If I am able to click on email containing a URL from within Email, and get the page launched within Safari, would eWallet not be able to do the same? </p>
<p>Also, would it not be possible to create a &#8216;Keychain&#8217; entry from within eWallet for the id/password. That way when the website is launched Safari would have that info. Maybe I am over simplyfying things.. and I am sure you have much more creative guys on the Dev team, but, just a thought.</p>
<p>Having been a long loyal user of eWallet since my Palm Pilot days, I cannot wait to have my over 400 entries sync up and usuable on the iPhone. </p>
<p>All around Great jobs guys!!</p>
<p>One thing that comes to mind,</p>
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		<title>By: doogald</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2008/08/05/copy-and-paste-do-you-need-it/#comment-30629</link>
		<dc:creator>doogald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Marc

But then how do I paste the password into PIE (or Opera Mini), or into the WiFi WPA setting? 

The good news about the iPhone is that Apple frequently updates the firmware. The same is not true for my Q9m - it has been updated once, and, so far, Verizon has not even announced whether they will add 6.1 to the device (and my guess is that they will not.) And people have suggested that the 2.1 iPhone firmware has text that suggests there will be cut/copy/paste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc</p>
<p>But then how do I paste the password into PIE (or Opera Mini), or into the WiFi WPA setting? </p>
<p>The good news about the iPhone is that Apple frequently updates the firmware. The same is not true for my Q9m &#8211; it has been updated once, and, so far, Verizon has not even announced whether they will add 6.1 to the device (and my guess is that they will not.) And people have suggested that the 2.1 iPhone firmware has text that suggests there will be cut/copy/paste.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a device with applications that rely on a tiny keyboard, copy/paste is definitely a requirement.  I think that apple will have copy and paste for the iphone with the next major firmware update.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a device with applications that rely on a tiny keyboard, copy/paste is definitely a requirement.  I think that apple will have copy and paste for the iphone with the next major firmware update.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blog.iliumsoft.com/2008/08/05/copy-and-paste-do-you-need-it/#comment-30610</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Doogald: If you&#039;re using eWallet 6.1 and you click Menu-&gt;Edit in edit mode you should have a full edit menu. Youc an also copy and paste cards to move them between categories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doogald: If you&#8217;re using eWallet 6.1 and you click Menu-&gt;Edit in edit mode you should have a full edit menu. Youc an also copy and paste cards to move them between categories.</p>
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		<title>By: doogald</title>
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		<dc:creator>doogald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, I have a Windows Mobile 6 Smartphone and it does NOT have copy/paste, much to my displeasure when trying to use eWallet to look up passwords for web sites.

So, how do I get copy/paste on my WM phone?

I think that Apple has already acknowledged that iPhone needs c/p and that they felt that there were other things that they needed to get done first, so I expect that a solution is coming soon. Sooner that it is coming to my WM SP anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I have a Windows Mobile 6 Smartphone and it does NOT have copy/paste, much to my displeasure when trying to use eWallet to look up passwords for web sites.</p>
<p>So, how do I get copy/paste on my WM phone?</p>
<p>I think that Apple has already acknowledged that iPhone needs c/p and that they felt that there were other things that they needed to get done first, so I expect that a solution is coming soon. Sooner that it is coming to my WM SP anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not really sure what my take is on the iPhone&#039;s features (or lack of.) I bought a car that has only a speedometer, tachometer (which is useful, as I have a manual transmission) and fuel gauge. Everything else is indicated by several lights that come on if something&#039;s wrong. Do you really need a temperature gauge? All you need to know is if your car is overheating, or not heating up at all, not that your water temperature is Over The Middle Line. (Or do you actually need to know that?) On the other hand, as a geek, I bought a ScanGauge right away so I can watch all kinds of fun numbers change as I drive around.

Also, as a geek, I am required to make car analogies. :) 

PJMDS&#039;s list is pretty good. Out of those things, I think that copy/paste is probably the big thing that I care about. I also amuse myself by trying to figure out how to implement it, and it almost always comes back to some kind of &#039;different mode&#039; that would come up if you tap+hold on text. Right now, tap+hold on text starts up the magnifying glass. I suppose with copy and paste, you&#039;d have to bring up the magnifying glass *and*  have the loupe stay on the screen even if you let go of the screen, *and* offer some options to select text or not, and then to copy it or paste it. 

The iPhone doesn&#039;t really have any menus the way a PalmOS, Windows Mobile, or Blackberry device has. You have specific configuration screens, but no generic menu capability. There&#039;s no &#039;root menu&#039; or popup context menus, there&#039;s no always-on menu option on screen, there&#039;s no button that brings up a program-specific menu. 

I put my five dollars on some kind of context menu that comes up when you tap and hold on the screen, not crazy multitouch &#039;tap here and then use another finger to tap there and bring the two together&#039; ideas. 

The lack of video calling is interesting. The idea that I would have to stare at my phone while calling someone on it seems to be antithetical to using my phone... I can&#039;t do anything else while making a video call, lest I look like I don&#039;t care about the other caller.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really sure what my take is on the iPhone&#8217;s features (or lack of.) I bought a car that has only a speedometer, tachometer (which is useful, as I have a manual transmission) and fuel gauge. Everything else is indicated by several lights that come on if something&#8217;s wrong. Do you really need a temperature gauge? All you need to know is if your car is overheating, or not heating up at all, not that your water temperature is Over The Middle Line. (Or do you actually need to know that?) On the other hand, as a geek, I bought a ScanGauge right away so I can watch all kinds of fun numbers change as I drive around.</p>
<p>Also, as a geek, I am required to make car analogies. <img src='http://blog.iliumsoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>PJMDS&#8217;s list is pretty good. Out of those things, I think that copy/paste is probably the big thing that I care about. I also amuse myself by trying to figure out how to implement it, and it almost always comes back to some kind of &#8216;different mode&#8217; that would come up if you tap+hold on text. Right now, tap+hold on text starts up the magnifying glass. I suppose with copy and paste, you&#8217;d have to bring up the magnifying glass *and*  have the loupe stay on the screen even if you let go of the screen, *and* offer some options to select text or not, and then to copy it or paste it. </p>
<p>The iPhone doesn&#8217;t really have any menus the way a PalmOS, Windows Mobile, or Blackberry device has. You have specific configuration screens, but no generic menu capability. There&#8217;s no &#8216;root menu&#8217; or popup context menus, there&#8217;s no always-on menu option on screen, there&#8217;s no button that brings up a program-specific menu. </p>
<p>I put my five dollars on some kind of context menu that comes up when you tap and hold on the screen, not crazy multitouch &#8216;tap here and then use another finger to tap there and bring the two together&#8217; ideas. </p>
<p>The lack of video calling is interesting. The idea that I would have to stare at my phone while calling someone on it seems to be antithetical to using my phone&#8230; I can&#8217;t do anything else while making a video call, lest I look like I don&#8217;t care about the other caller.</p>
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		<title>By: PJMDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJMDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no Copy/Paste
no MMS
no Video Recording
no Multitasking
no Removable battery
no Pen
no Camera to do video calls

It&#039;s amazing that people pay for such beta devices when they could get a device with all those features implemented and many more, iPhone is just to show of to your friends and hope that none of them ask about the features it doesn&#039;t have :)

It must be some advanced brainwashing method that makes people crazy about the iPhone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no Copy/Paste<br />
no MMS<br />
no Video Recording<br />
no Multitasking<br />
no Removable battery<br />
no Pen<br />
no Camera to do video calls</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing that people pay for such beta devices when they could get a device with all those features implemented and many more, iPhone is just to show of to your friends and hope that none of them ask about the features it doesn&#8217;t have <img src='http://blog.iliumsoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It must be some advanced brainwashing method that makes people crazy about the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an owner of PPC, WM5/6, Blackberry and now iPhone, I feel like all have their places. As mentioned above, it is sometimes unfair to compare them as they are so different in many respects. Regarding copy/paste, I disagree with the notion that you won&#039;t miss it until you have it. The iPhone and WM smartphone sorely lack in this area when it comes to some basic functions:

1. you are emailed contact info and want to save it to a new user. Maybe the phone will recognize the phone number, but you have to retype all the other contact information.

2. The iPhone is unable to dial a phone number from a calendar invite - no matter where it is (body, subject, etc). Yes this an iPhone shortcoming, but Copy/Paste would solve it.

Some of us may not edit docs or XLS files on our devices, but moving around and copying core information like contacts, calendar, notes, etc. is fundamental and all OS need the standard BB feature of Copy/Paste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an owner of PPC, WM5/6, Blackberry and now iPhone, I feel like all have their places. As mentioned above, it is sometimes unfair to compare them as they are so different in many respects. Regarding copy/paste, I disagree with the notion that you won&#8217;t miss it until you have it. The iPhone and WM smartphone sorely lack in this area when it comes to some basic functions:</p>
<p>1. you are emailed contact info and want to save it to a new user. Maybe the phone will recognize the phone number, but you have to retype all the other contact information.</p>
<p>2. The iPhone is unable to dial a phone number from a calendar invite &#8211; no matter where it is (body, subject, etc). Yes this an iPhone shortcoming, but Copy/Paste would solve it.</p>
<p>Some of us may not edit docs or XLS files on our devices, but moving around and copying core information like contacts, calendar, notes, etc. is fundamental and all OS need the standard BB feature of Copy/Paste.</p>
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		<title>By: LindsayannG</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindsayannG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree about the software bloat, and a LOT of web app developers are having to write their own browser or mail software because they want to be able to send an email directly from the app, or open a browser from the app. 

It is a SAD thing, what the SDK did to you developers. They REALLY limited you in what you can do. It would be GREAT to be able to tap into ALL functions (in a limited way) in order to get what you want out of it. 

Think about all of the things that could be done if you can connect to your calender, email, contacts.. the list goes on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the software bloat, and a LOT of web app developers are having to write their own browser or mail software because they want to be able to send an email directly from the app, or open a browser from the app. </p>
<p>It is a SAD thing, what the SDK did to you developers. They REALLY limited you in what you can do. It would be GREAT to be able to tap into ALL functions (in a limited way) in order to get what you want out of it. </p>
<p>Think about all of the things that could be done if you can connect to your calender, email, contacts.. the list goes on.</p>
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