Business users want to switch to iPhone. We have to sacrifice much in switching platforms. Many of us are willing to make those sacrifices because iPhone is a superior interface. The primary sacrifices going from WM devices to iPhone are as follows:
* No cut and paste
* No Outlook Task sync
* No Outlook Notes sync
* No “Phat-Notes” or “ListPro” style database manager

Simply put, if you put out a full featured ListPro for iPhone you will address all of the above listed issues and many more. You will make EVERY bullshit list/task/memo app available currently for iPhone OBSOLETE with ListPro.

I think that ListPro is such a valuable and versatile app that I would spend up to $100.00 just to have it on my iPhone. Unless you purchased the iphone as a toy to use like a PSP, this application is a quintessential MUST HAVE. I know- I have been using these devices heavily for 13 years from Palm Pilot to PPC to WM to iPhone.

We shouldn’t have to tell you how good this program is. Your past platform sales (hell from Handango alone) should speak all the truth you need about your projected bottom line.

Please do not waste anymore time developing this full featured application for the millions of serious iPhone users out here still suffering from a real lack of professional software for this device.

I am not really interested in option #1. I understand the problems with option #2 but I would intend my iPhone to become the primary instrument for updating the information stored in ListPro.

I would still be interested in a 3rd option, a new version of ListPro for the iPhone as long as there was a similar application for my desktop and some method of transferring my current lists over to the new application. I could live without some of the features, I was happy with the first version I used many, many years ago, but I can’t imagine using the product without full sync between the iPhone and a desktop version. I also think there needs to be some method to share and sync lists between iPhones.

I look forward to hearing your disision. I have been waiting for ListPro, but if you are going with option #1 I’ll have to jump ship and look for another solution.

Thanks,

Carl

Just wanted to thank everyone again – we are working on a good solution and will let everyone know our plans in the near (I hope!) future. Just wanted to make sure you knew we didn’t just table the issue!

- Marc

PS: If you’re in the U.S., VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!!

Based on the great experience I’ve had with eWallet and Ilium’s statement that ListPro for the iPhone would be available later this year, I downloaded ListPro for my PC and have spent many hours loading a life’s worth of notes into it in anticipation of its release. The time I’ve spent is worth much more than whatever price the ListPro iPhone software could cost. I’m willing to pay almost any amount of money for it. Even a primitive version of ListPro that only allows minimal edits, but which syncs with ListPro on my computer, would be fine. Most serious editing occurs on the computer, not the iPhone; the iPhone isn’t designed for inputting significant amounts of data. Anything just to get my current lists on the iPhone. Copying all my lists into another program, no matter how good it is, will take a lot of time. And, as we all know, time is money.

So please release even a very primitive version of ListPro for the iPhone ASAP, so those of us who’ve spent all this time won’t feel abandoned by Ilium!

And by the way, since I didn’t have a specific mobile platform for ListPro, I had to download a trial version, and my time is running out for it! Is there any way I can extend my trial version?

By the way, I think eWallet for the iPhone is actually too good. I appreciate the time Ilium has clearly spent on it, but, as I mentioned above, no one spends a lot of time hand-inputting information into his iPhone–a device that doesn’t even have “cut and paste.” All that’s really necessary is to simply sync with the more sophisticated version on one’s computer. That’s what an iPod does with iTunes, and no one complains! So Ilium, you’re a great company, but you need to lower your standards a bit and get this one out! It’s clearly a case in which anything is better than nothing.

This is the second time an application I’m waiting for the iPhone is delayed (what shows the difficulties to port a complex application to this device).

My preferred option is #2.

Most of the applications in the AppStore (including the “Lists” ones) are in general crap.

I was an user of ListPro in my PDA and when I saw you were porting it to the iPhone it was a great news for me.

I don’t completely understand why you are going to release a full-version of ListPro. My approach would be to develop a version with limited functionality (at least one that makes the difference, to me the ability of selecting the fields of a list). A improve it over time with added functionality (even establishing price for the update).

This will allow, first, to position the product among the existing ones; and second, to start receiving cash.

good luck!

Great post – as someone who works in product development I completely understand the choices you were weighing up. I think its good to educate everyone on the thought processes that go on behind the scene.

I’ve been using Listpro for many years on Windows Mobile based devices. I recently bought an iPod Touch and might get an iPhone one day.

I would go the lightweight option as v1. As you note, there is a lot of competition out there, and Listpro is one of those programs that you don’t fully appreciate until you start using (and relying on) it.

Sure, as an end user I would love to see full functionality – but I personally won’t wait until middle of next year before chosing something.